I think the reason why some even generally perceptive people get entangled with the very worst of liars, is because the most extreme liars don't have a speedbump to the lie.
Other people change up a bit, even just a little, when they lie. And perceptive people can see that the little change that happened there.
But for the biggest liars in the world who have little to marginal value of honesty for the sake of honesty or respect, the way they talk when they lie is just the way they talk all the time.
And additional layer can be added to this challenge, when the person being lied to also is not someone inclined to lie themsleves to begin with. This can make them over-reliant on needing to see signs in the other person's behaviour, because actually putting themselves themsleves in someone else's shoes, is much less likely to help them infer that lying is even on the table for that other person, let alone a probable choice.
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Oct 8/2025 clarifications:
Clarified nuance: this does not imply that a person is less honest if they do not end up tricked by severe liars. Rather, my point about inclination to never lie is more about mental mind-mapping and information processing, not the character trait of being honest.
There are honest people who choose who honesty even though their mind map of decision making does present lying as a viable option. (They just choose not to). However, being able to see that map can also be used to save themsleves from the very sneaky liars who don't show it, whereas the other people who have the more narrow mind-map that just doesn't produce the lying option to begin with in analyzing a situation.
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Clarification on my hesitation to post:
I didn't post it before because I was afraid of this being found and used as a basis to say I have fully believed something in my own life that I had not concluded, but was rationally considering as a possibility, and also considering to be more possible than I wanted to admit.
Please understand that this is not a conclusion about an autobiographical event, or even about one event in particular. It is something that was put into words, shared to comfort a longtime friend of mine, and now that I feel more free from my own worries feel okay to put here.





